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Quinton
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I really don't mind Sette being an incorrigible little shit at the beginning... and we do see that there's more to her than just that and a lot of it is a sort of defense-mechanism / self-confidence booster sorta thing... and her relationship with Duane evolves as she (and the audience) learn more about what makes him tick.
I'm caught up now and will definitely be following this one. I do hope we get a breather and some more light-hearted bits after the current action underway resolves.
Interesting world, interesting characters, interesting magic system. Wheels within wheels. I'm looking forward to Sette finding someone to
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calapine
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Trigger Warning: Polandball
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« Last Edit: October 26, 2015, 12:39:14 PM by calapine »
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calapine
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PA's regular stuff is now 100% unfunny after occasional signs of funny were thoroughly exterminated. I think a few of the occasional 'make no sense' interludes actually show some narrative and artistic promise but I think it's pretty characteristic that neither of them seem able to carry through on the ideas in those one-off things and sustain the effort. It's more like a sketchbook of half-baked ideas and premises and then it's back to the same jokes about video games and penises, recycling shit just like the real comics pages in the newspapers do.
why is this and why did it happen so severely even the art appears to just be disintegrating into wank in a way which sort of degrades itself to tycho's failure to evolve beyond his own wank
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Ironwood
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"Mr Soft Owl has Seen Some Shit." - Sun Tzu
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I'm guessing because they now have hats of money, they believe everything they touches turns to gold. And they have enough fanbois telling them that, so they've disappeared so far up their own arses that they have lost a sense of what is good and what is crap.
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HaemishM
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What the fuck happened to dude's hair?
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Rendakor
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The art seems worse than I remember it being; wonder if that's rose colored glasses or they actually got worse.
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Soln
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Pretty sure it's drawn/inked/rendered by multiple artists they have in house.
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It's definitely worse. Mike has been veering into the experimental with his art for a while but Tycho's head has never been quite so grippingly, objectively ugly before.
And I'm usually not even a hater - I still generally enjoy Jerry's gratuitous, verbiage-wank writing style, though I stopped keeping up with the comic once the newspost became required reading to make any sense of it.
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Ironwood
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The art seems worse than I remember it being; wonder if that's rose colored glasses or they actually got worse.
No, it's got worse. And it's been a straight line down.
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"Mr Soft Owl has Seen Some Shit." - Sun Tzu
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calapine
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Does that remind anyone else of a certain forum?
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Yeah like legitimately the art is getting worse. It's like the opposite of watching other webcomics, where if even just through the sheer tenacity of how much they practice, you notice them evolving into a coherent style that becomes more clarified, consistent, good, and expressive as time goes on.
Whereas PA is just ... dissolving into a weird fucking sausage-nose mess of soppy, weird "facial" "expressions"
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He's a Fine Artieest. You just don't GET him. It's not for you. The irony is dripping.
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Quinton
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It's fascinating because it breaks the two most common webcomic art patterns (a. art remains the exact same level of mediocre-to-bad that it was from day one or (more commonly) b. art steadily improves over time (apparently most people who draw hundreds of pages of comics start getting better at art, shocking))... PA started pretty rough art-wise, improved steadily over a few years, then at some point just sorta imploded into something incomprehensible.
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Samprimary
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He's a Fine Artieest. You just don't GET him. It's not for you. like i don't know who this is supposed to be for but it really concerns me that they managed to carve out a stylistic niche where uh, okay, okay, the best way i can describe it is this: they perplexingly went from drawing mouths like "people who can draw mouths ok" to drawing mouths like Liefeld draws feet, like that there is a fundamental lack of ability to draw that thing that cannot entirely be mended, and that they sort of gloss over with some crude, weird workarounds. it is like that much with the 'humor' and writing having seemingly decayed into terminally unfunny, the visuals of the strip broke straight through into depressingly overwrought badness. I see the amount of practice and time that goes into it. So I do not understand how it ends up so bad where before it was arguably better by being simpler and more straightforward. Is tycho's absurd glossolalia sort of wanking itself off into how gabe does art?
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It cannot be overstated just how far Tycho has crawled up his own ass. I used to enjoy the fact that reading the post helped me understand the context of the comic, but he doesn't say anything coherent anymore. In fact, he just flat out doesn't say ANY THING, anymore. He just whargarbls for a few "paragraphs," and then makes a little blurb at the end to the effect of, "I know I'm way up my own ass, spewing nonsense, but it also has meaning, ya know?"
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The past cannot be changed. The future is yet within your power.
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Samprimary
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It cannot be overstated just how far Tycho has crawled up his own ass. I used to enjoy the fact that reading the post helped me understand the context of the comic, but he doesn't say anything coherent anymore. In fact, he just flat out doesn't say ANY THING, anymore. He just whargarbls for a few "paragraphs," and then makes a little blurb at the end to the effect of, "I know I'm way up my own ass, spewing nonsense, but it also has meaning, ya know?"
His response to Undertale was breathtaking in that it so perfectly and completely summarized that he had become the very sort of thing he had pilloried earlier back when I guess he wasn't ossified underneath all his wank. I had been prone to be apologist for them before. That ended that.
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Ironwood
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What you did there. I see it.
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RhyssaFireheart
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Geezus - comparing the art in those two PA strips linked.. the current stuff looks like absolute shit. Someone needs to have his gradient tool taken away at the bare minimum.
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I've been somewhat active on the PA forums for many years, but I can't recall the last time I ever set eyes on the frontpage or actively followed the comic. It's got to have been six, seven years now? Much like Something Awful, the front page stopped being the interesting part many years ago.
It's kind of interesting, though, since you can flip backwards through the recent archives and find the single exact strip where Mike's art style suddenly shifts to what we have now. It's very jarring.
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I think his excuse was, "I was tired of the old way so I'm doing it this way now."
It looks really bad but whatever they've been at it for like a decade and a half now. I don't really read them anymore.
Like, Tim Fucking Buckley does more poorly written but somehow more interesting shit now since he dumped the PA-ripoff premise. He does a really bad videogame comic, a bad sci-fi story, a bad dnd-campaign, and a bad superhero story. Somehow it's more interesting than anything PA has going on somehow which boggles the mind.
But we also live in a world where the guy that does Dresden Codak still gets thousands of dollars a month on Patreon to NOT deliver any of the actual promised goods, month after month after month.
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Quinton
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But we also live in a world where the guy that does Dresden Codak still gets thousands of dollars a month on Patreon to NOT deliver any of the actual promised goods, month after month after month.
I thought he was updating at the rate of one, sometimes two pages a month post-patreon-windfall, which is blisteringly fast for him. (Yeah, I'm a bit baffled at why folks throw that much money at him too).
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Philosophy wonks have little else to spend money on, I suppose. Especially nihilists since nothing matters.
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calapine
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Polandballs playing D&D! Spoilered for size:
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RhyssaFireheart
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LOL! Okay, that one took a bit to get, but not bad.
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It's brilliant on almost every level.
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Haha yeah that took me a minute
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That took me too longer to get
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Soln
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explain plz (Bane/Batman? something SJW?)
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schad
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explain plz (Bane/Batman? something SJW?)
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Sky
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Also, I love the Heroes for Hire.
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