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angry.bob
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Reply #3080 on: January 06, 2013, 09:38:31 PM

If you're honestly that worried about your stats just make a new account and start over. With the knowledge you have now it should make a solid difference in the early tiers.

Also, I'd recommend the soviet heavy line over the american, especially the IS-7. They seem to be a lot more forgiving defensively when you're not in cover or get shot from a direction you aren't expecting.

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Reply #3081 on: January 06, 2013, 10:20:02 PM

Not worried about my stats.  Just using them as a guide to give me feedback on my play.  I'm a scientist and data speak to me.

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Reply #3082 on: January 07, 2013, 09:50:19 AM

Is the AMX12 any good or am I just terrible with lights?  It seems to accelerate so slowly that you REALLY have to know the map well to make the tank perform.  I guess I should go back to my T-50-2.  At least it was fun.
For me the AMX12t was the weakest of the tier 5 lights. It then got moved to tier 6 without meaningful buffs.

The key to most American mediums is the same as the heavies. Use the gun depression advantage. The mediums do not get the turret armor of the heavies but it is still very useful to expose less of your tank by just having the top peak above a hill. Use any small incline to maximum advantage. French tanks have terrible gun depression in general and soviet tanks not that good. Chinese may end up being the worst. British tanks do have good depression.

Comparing medium tier 7 tank gun depressions. T-20 -10, Panther -6, VK3002 (DB) -6, T-43 -8, and Comet -12. T-43 has the best gun depression of all Soviet mediums but T-20 still has it beat by 2 degress which makes a difference.
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Reply #3083 on: January 07, 2013, 10:08:41 AM

On the tier 7 mediums, it's as I said before.  If I have good heavies on my team, the tank is amazing.  When playing pubs, heavies are often chickenshit, campers, or both.  I can understand sniping if the gun calls for it, but when you're top tier in a T29 and you snipe from spawn?  Really?  If I can get them to at least push carefully, I can offer wonderful flank support.  

My matches end up either very good or terrible with little in between.  I'm working on my improvisation. 
« Last Edit: January 07, 2013, 10:12:42 AM by Nebu »

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Reply #3084 on: January 08, 2013, 03:51:53 PM

18 losses in a row. I am about 1 more from uninstalling. Dear sweet babby jesus my teammates.

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Reply #3085 on: January 08, 2013, 08:46:30 PM

Test server is up, again.  For reals this time. awesome, for real

http://worldoftanks.com/news/1895-public-test-083-patch-notes/
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Reply #3086 on: January 09, 2013, 04:31:59 AM

18 losses in a row. I am about 1 more from uninstalling. Dear sweet babby jesus my teammates.

Wow.  My personal worst was only 10.  Nowadays if I lose more than three I drop down to tier 4 or 5 and come back.  If its still bad I play something else for an hour.

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Reply #3087 on: January 09, 2013, 08:46:52 AM

Yeah, if I hit 5 in a row I close out the game for a few minutes and come back a few minutes later. When I do I seem to get winning streaks and the composition of my teams are much different. Frankly, it seems like the MM is set up to either fuck you or help you based on something when you first log in. Could be my imagination though.

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Reply #3088 on: January 09, 2013, 09:37:44 AM

I've had that suspicion before, too, but based around what your rating is.  I know that it does seem to give a break to Premium tanks because mine are almost always in the top 1/3 of the team.  It would make sense if some sort of bug, hidden deep in the code, wound-up screwing people some other way.

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Reply #3089 on: January 09, 2013, 09:54:44 AM

Many premium tanks have preferential matchmaking...for instance, Type 59s will not see any higher than a Tier 9 battle, while other Tier 8 mediums will see up to Tier 10.

I still feel vaguely nauseous and angry when I think about playing, so I think maybe another day or two off may be in order.

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Reply #3090 on: January 09, 2013, 10:27:21 AM

I'm kind of in the same boat, far too many games played over the holidays, so it's time to take a break.  I may log in from time to time and snag a double on one of the three tanks I'm leveling but probably won't play more than that.
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Reply #3091 on: January 09, 2013, 03:50:25 PM

I may stop playing anything below tier 6 in this game until they do something about the clan M4 gold derp platoons.  My KV1 that I play to make case gets 2-shot by an M4. With 3 of them running in packs, it's not unusual to see them get 10-12 kills with point and click.   
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Reply #3092 on: January 09, 2013, 07:42:07 PM

Game 19 was a draw that was utterly winnable, Game 20 a loss, and then I broke through with a garbage double for my M103 in game 21. Have won several tonight, but most of those have been clan wars ROFLstomps.

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Reply #3093 on: January 10, 2013, 05:19:07 PM

Chain losses don't bug me. The completely random once every 10 match 30 second lag spikes piss me off.
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Reply #3094 on: January 11, 2013, 04:05:13 AM

Since a bunch of us don't like the generic "Evolve" t-shirt design chosen by the public does anyone know an orphanage in Siberia who wouldn't mind a dozen or so free green shirts?
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Reply #3095 on: January 11, 2013, 06:49:23 AM

I'll take someone's code if they don't want it as then I can get one for my kid as well.

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Reply #3096 on: January 11, 2013, 07:03:42 AM

Yeah, same here.

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Reply #3097 on: January 11, 2013, 08:15:12 AM

I was underwhelmed by the three choices but at least 2 looked like something I'd be willing to wear to the gym.
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Reply #3098 on: January 15, 2013, 01:01:23 PM

So has anyone here dumped the cash for perma-Premium? I was considering it, since I've typically been buying it each weekend for 3 days or so.

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Reply #3099 on: January 15, 2013, 01:10:34 PM

Not seeing the perma premium. Seeing 1 year and 6 months options. In the past I did buy the 1 year premium, don't regret it.

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Reply #3100 on: January 15, 2013, 01:40:34 PM

I bought a year during the Christmas Special when it was offered at a discount because it worked out cheaper than the number of Premium months I bought last year.
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Reply #3101 on: January 15, 2013, 01:40:54 PM

In the past...so what do you do now?

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Reply #3102 on: January 15, 2013, 01:42:36 PM

Is there a perma premium?  Didn't know that was an option.

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Reply #3103 on: January 15, 2013, 02:10:22 PM

I don't think there is one. Best you're going to get is the 1-year option, which isn't a terrible deal compared to other MMOs.

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Reply #3104 on: January 16, 2013, 05:49:31 AM

I'm afraid of perma-premium turning me into some tanksnerd Sisyphus forever doing daily doubles until the end of time.

Meanwhile, I'm still a defender of the new Dragon's Ridge.
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Reply #3105 on: January 16, 2013, 08:16:30 AM

Dragon's ridge would be awesome in a Type 59.  Not so much in a British heavy. 

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Reply #3106 on: January 16, 2013, 08:36:22 AM

I will not be sad to see it or Seren Coast get pulled. 
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Reply #3107 on: January 16, 2013, 10:13:46 AM

Dragon's ridge would be awesome in a Type 59.  Not so much in a British heavy. 

It is SO awesome in a Type or American Medium or Heavy.  Guess which tanks I play.

I will not be sad to see it or Seren Coast get pulled. 

I don't get the hate for either of these maps. I find them to be some of the most fun with the most varied play and possible strategies.

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Reply #3108 on: January 16, 2013, 10:22:18 AM

There is no strategy on Serene Coast. If you get stuck up north, you either mass rush the hill or you hunker down and get raped. South has all the advantage. It is a giant fucking campfest and I would rather play Dragon Ridge, which is saying a lot.

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Reply #3109 on: January 16, 2013, 08:59:56 PM

North has the advantage, actually. Pubbie Island, town, hill foliage. Opinions can differ, of course.

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Reply #3110 on: January 16, 2013, 11:38:30 PM

Been playing this occasionally again, I find that approaching it with a very relaxed attitude and not using XVM makes me care far less about the huge number of brain-damaged monkeys apparently driving tanks.

Anyway, 8.3 went live on the EU server the other day, with the Chinese tech tree in. Not very interesting at the lower end since the tanks are all copies of existing tanks. It deviates a bit from tier 6 upwards though and is a bit random.

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Light Tanks (Tiers VI-VIII)

(Renault NC-31, VAE Type B, M5A1 Stuart) 59-16, WZ131, WZ-132.

    Low silhouette
    Excellent dynamics
    Good weaponry as Medium Tanks
    Low weight
    Thin armour

Medium Tanks (Tiers VII-X)

(Type T-34) Type 58, T-34-1, T-34-2, WZ-120, 121

    Large one-time damage
    Good armouring on the turret

Heavy Tanks (Tiers VII-X)

IS-2, 110, WZ-111 1-4, 113

    Heavier armouring than their USSR predecessors
    Quick-firing guns (similar to the medium tanks)
    Vulnerable side armour

I used up some free XP and jumped straight into an M51A Stuart and promptly got 4 kills in my first match in it so it's either overpowered or (more likely) I got very lucky.  awesome, for real

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Reply #3111 on: January 17, 2013, 01:55:48 PM

North has the advantage, actually. Pubbie Island, town, hill foliage. Opinions can differ, of course.

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I think controlling the hill to the E decides the match 90% of the time. One or two tanks can spot almost the entire map, get sides shots on people fighting in town, etc. Tanks on Pubbie Island are ignorable except for a couple of specific spots, and the rocks to south outclass the town to the north for cover. Especially since people on the hill can fire into town (as noted above).

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Reply #3112 on: January 17, 2013, 05:28:55 PM

From my client patching, it appears 8.3 is live in the US now as well.
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Reply #3113 on: January 17, 2013, 08:08:56 PM

From my client patching, it appears 8.3 is live in the US now as well.

Playing a match tier 5 or below makes that painfully clear.

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Reply #3114 on: January 17, 2013, 11:54:15 PM

From my client patching, it appears 8.3 is live in the US now as well.

Playing a match tier 5 or below makes that painfully clear.

Tell me about it.  23 games in the new Chinese tier 5 with 41 kills...and a 31% win rate. Argh!
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