World of Tanks

[WayAbvPar]

2nd battle in my T-50-

Victory!
Battle: Abbey Tuesday, July 03, 2012 11:35:55 AM
Vehicle: T-50
Experience received: 2,268 (fine for causing damage to allies: 16; x2 for the first victory each day)
Credits received: 18,739 (fine for causing damage to allies: 1,650)
Battle Achievements: Master Gunner, Mastery Badge: "I Class"

Yeah, I think I am gonna like this tank. Pulled my 100% crew out of my M3 Stuart from the tutorial, so they are starting out decently.

[Abagadro]

Dug out an ancient Wingman joystick and got it set up and World of Warplanes is much more fun.


EDIT: That's not to say I am any good. I can't fly these things to save my life.

[Furiously]

I'm looking forward to battleships a bit more.

[Merusk]

Dug out an ancient Wingman joystick and got it set up and World of Warplanes is much more fun.


EDIT: That's not to say I am any good. I can't fly these things to save my life.

Hm... I'll have to find a joystick and see if it helps.

[WayAbvPar]

Got home after two long days of travel and family celebrations to try to bang out my triples last night. Got most of the important ones, then ran my SU-85B. Got Steppes in a Tier V match. Holy SHIT. Just murdered everything I saw...got Top Gun (in a shit TD!) and had a triple well into the 3k range. Decided that was probably the one to go to bed on 

[Engels]

Wait till you get the SU-85 with THE gun.

[WayAbvPar]

Ha that is exactly what I was thinking of while I was on my spree. Only about 7k left before I have this one elited and I am on to the big boy 85.

[kildorn]

I'm still waffling on continuing down the French TD tree. I've got the V39, but it's pretty meh. And having gone all the way into the T28p, I have to say it's rough playing a TD without a turret. I've had a lot of issues trying to shoot lights traversing across a field with the static TDs that my US TDs would just pick off with ease.

I'm almost up to the M103 on the US heavy line, I need to remember if I'm going to like it or not compared to my hilariously mean T32.

[Merusk]

The T32's mean?   How, it's got the same gun as the T29 which I can't pen anything 8+ for shit with unless I hit 'em in the ass.

Maybe I'm just firing at the wrong spots, but on most of the 8's I get bounces and am helpless against the 9s and 10s I regularly see.

[Gets]

It has a faster reload and enough maneuverability to get into good shooting positions.

[kildorn]

It's basically a faster, beefier T29. I've destroyed entire flanks with it by finding tiny hills to hull down on while I advance.

I don't think there are many things I really feel undergunned against. I bounce on E-100s and IS-4s like everyone else, but my usual "is this gun good" is can I reliably pen a Lowe at range.

[Tmon]

The 105 on the T-32 is a decent gun for its tier, I can't think of a tier 8 or below it can't reliably penetrate, from any aspect so long as you know the general areas to aim at.  The good thing is the gun is accurate enough to reliably hit where you aim at normal ranges and if you can face hug so much the better since your turret front and height give some serious advantages. 

Tier 9/10 requires you to work more and you are better off trying for flank shots, but again the gun is accurate enough to hit the spots you want to hit.  The biggest problem with the gun against higher tiers is that its damage is on the low side, so you have to punch lots of holes to take down the biggest tanks.  If you expose your hull or flanks while you are doing this you will die, most times before you can finish them off.   

I run with a stabilizer, vent and rammer on it so it fires fairly quickly and the stabilizer keeps the size of the aiming circle small so I can fire faster if I'm playing peekaboo and I have a decent hit chance even on the move. 

[WayAbvPar]

Preliminary 7.5 patch notes (no hard ETA to my knowledge)- blatantly stolen from WOTNews via SA-

- Added 3 new maps of the U.S.: "Port", "Highway," "Pacific Coast".

- Added new medium tanks at tier 10: E-50 Ausf.M, T-62A, M48A1.
- Added a light French tank tier 5 ELC AMX.
- Added German TD Tier 8 JagdPanther II.
- The French light and medium tanks AMX 12t, AMX 13 75, AMX 13 90, Lorraine 40t, Bat Chatillon 25t transferred one tier up.
- Added new TDs tier 10: JagdPz E-100, Object 268, AMX 155 50 Foch, T110E3, T110E4.
- Added support for the British branch of the British tanks and premium medium tank Matilda Black Prince.
- Rebalanced settings for premium tanks DickerMax and SuperPershing.
- Recalibrated the cost of repair of some tanks.
- Whole experience from elite TD Ferdinand will be transferred to JagdTiger.
- Rebalanced settings for TDs 2 and 3 tiers.
- Rebalanced settings for French TDs introduced in patch 0.7.4.
- In connection with the introduction of Medium T10s and TDs Tier 10, rebalanced some of the parameters of medium tanks tier 9, and tier 10 heavy tanks.

Rebalanced some medium tanks and TDs USSR:
- T-28: Removed gun F-30, generally rebalanced of the tank. (WTF!!)
- T-34-85: Removed 100mm D10T gun, improved 85mm cannon D5T-85BM, added to the engine B-54K. (WTF!!)
- T-43: Removed 100mm D10T gun, improved 85mm cannon D5T-85BM, added to the engine B-54K. (WTF!!)
- KV-13: held a general readjustment of the tank.
- SU-85: Removed 107mm gun ZIS-6C, added gun 85mm D-5S-85BM, held a general readjustment of the machine. (WTF!!)

- Reworked the mechanism of concussion crew from HE.
- Fixed or refined visual models of some tanks.
- Multiple minor changes and improvements interface.
- Fixed game crashes when you exit the battle in the hangar.
- Fixed a density of some bushes, affecting stealth tanks behind them.
- Added Medal Erokhina: "Awarded to the player, which destroyed in one battle tank in the medium tanks 3 or more TDs of the enemy and higher than 7 tier."

Have they bumped tanks up like they are with the French in the past? How does that work, exactly? I am assuming the XP needed to the next tank will increase (since it is now a tier higher), which completely screws me in my quixotic quest for a BatChat  

e- Also, this script is kinda cool if you use Firefox with GreaseMonkey.

[Tmon]

They've moved tanks up and down tiers in previous patches.  Usually the crew moves with the tank and all modules, consumables and ammo are returned to the depot or in the case of gold ammo for guns that will no longer be in game converted back into gold.  The replacement tank will get a new crew with the same crew xp level but no secondary xp.  I'm not sure how they'll handle vehicle XP, when my IS-4 was converted to tier X all the XP stayed on the IS-8 which replaced it at tier 9.  I expect that it will take around 180,000 XP to unlock the new tier X mediums.

[Merusk]

Yeah it'll cost more xp since you'll be grinding for a Tier 10 instead of 9.   Much like the KV1s was a lot cheaper before they did the rework on it.

Sad they're removing the 107mm from the SU-85 but it WAS a little overpowered.  I felt like it was a huge downgrade to go from the 85 to the 100.

[WayAbvPar]

I gotta grind my Su-85B then so I can try the big gun out before they nerf it.

[kildorn]

That nerf list is.. really odd. The SU-85 was really solid, but the rest didn't exactly tear up the place and I don't think they were known for their amazing guns for their tier.

[Shannow]

What did they do to the KV-13? Anyone know?

As long as they don't touch my favourite tank......the bt-2!

[Kageru]

There's another thread on the forums suggesting they might mess with the match-maker (though no one really believes them). If the tier difference you face is a big tighter I could see the need for some of the guns being balanced downwards.

[kildorn]

If they mess with the MM, I can only imagine them somehow deciding that the tier differences were too close, and Tier 2s should have a chance of facing Tier 9s to keep things exciting.

[Kageru]

These changes are being made because of the matchmaker changes also in 7.5. If those listed tanks were left alone, they would dominate pretty hardcore with a lower tier spread.

GeneralDirection(Head of Community).

[apocrypha]

I would certainly like to see a lower tier spread in the MM. The current 4-5 tier range of most games distorts tactics. Most people just follow the top tier heavies and expect them to do everything. I'm guessing that the playerbase has got big enough to let them try reducing the spread and still maintain short short queue times.

I sincerely hope they think about reducing the frequency of Assault and Encounter battles too, I mostly hate them, mostly because most of the kids playing are mouth-breathing fuckwits. Mostly.

Anyway, talking of fuckwits, here's the most frustrating game I've ever had I think. T25/2 and I got 8 kills but we still lost. Entire team went into the forest on Murovanka. Sigh. If I'd managed to find the last enemy, a StugIII, I might have won the match pretty much single-handedly, but the timer ran out.

[Merusk]

Ugh, that's got to be infuriating.

I agree on the fuckwit nature of people in Assault and Encounters.  The number of times I've been blocked by people on a defense map when I had a LOS or had them scraping up against my tank to use me as a shield on assault is getting out of hand.

[Abagadro]

Narrow spread can be fun. Played a good game last night in my t-54 where I was bottom tank.

[Nebu]

Is it time for me to comment again on how much I hate playing against tier 8's in my tier 4 & 5 tanks?  I really do. 

[satael]

I play just tier 6 tanks (french light, german medium and american td) and the games I like the least are ones where my light tank gets to be the scout in a match with multiple tier 10 tanks especially now that the highest tier medium tanks are as fast as  the light tanks (nothing is more frustrating than trying to run from an E-50 when the rest of your team just camps  )

[angry.bob]

T25/2 and I got 8 kills but we still lost. Entire team went into the forest on Murovanka.

The real travesty is that you got 8 kills, damage on 5 more, and only got 1096 experience for it.

[Merusk]

You have entirely too solid a point - said as I stare down a 22k grind just to get a turret on my T32.

- Also you only got 41k credits.  I get that just by damaging 2-3 tanks in my T34.

[Abagadro]

They are discounting consumables again this weekend on the NA server so if you didn't stock up last time you can now.

[veredus]

7.5 public test is out. The T10 TD's all look like they will cause many tears. The E100 TD thingy is 299 pen and 1100 damage. All of the others are 290ish to 300ish pen and 850 damage.

[angry.bob]

7.5 public test is out. The T10 TD's all look like they will cause many tears. The E100 TD thingy is 299 pen and 1100 damage. All of the others are 290ish to 300ish pen and 850 damage.

What's it cost for one shot, and I really want to know how much a gold rournd costs.

On a side note, the tier 5 french TD that looks like a bathtub is pretty great with the top gun on it. It bounces almost anything from the fron t and the gun will one-shot most of the stuff MM puts it in a game with.

[veredus]

I have no idea the cost per round. I don't take that into consideration anymore so don't ever look. I used to when I first started playing but for me personally it kills some of the fun to worry about conserving ammo for cost reason.

I did get the T110E4 (turreted version) and ya it's as fun as it looked. It's a little heavier then the T110 heavy so a little slower acceleration but still fairly spry for what it is. Noticeably faster then the T30. The T110 TD actually has a better turret than the heavy imo with better side armor and the tumor is in an easier to hide spot. I also haven't had any issues with the 180 degree rotation limit on the turret. Still good enough for peaking around corners and lining up shots on moving tanks. The only thing that really stops it from feeling like the T110 heavy with a bad ass gun is the slow 18 degree turret traverse.

Best change so far though I think is the new matchmaker. More fun all around, whether a top tank or mid to bottom tank.

Edit: 1260 credits per round. Just looked it up.

[apocrypha]

The real travesty is that you got 8 kills, damage on 5 more, and only got 1096 experience for it.

Shit yeah, tell me about it. They have nerfed XP so hard. That's with a premium account too. I only play daily doubles and in the lines I'm at tier 8+ in I am looking at months of daily doubles to the next tank. It's one of the reasons I play as many different lines as I do - it's nice to have some low tier lines so that I get more of a feeling of progress. Starting to run out of low tier lines though!

[WayAbvPar]

So-
Some asshat runs into my tracks to start a match. I complain, so he shoots me. I drive around him, and he rams me at least twice more, damaging my tracks. So I kill him to prevent him from fucking with the rest of the round (plus he definitely had it coming). I turn blue, and get my account suspended for 24 hours (when I had 16 hours of premium left). I filed an appeal, but not too hopeful. Pretty sure I won't be spending another dime on this game if they don't unfuck me, however.

[Abagadro]

That's a bummer.  I've team killed multiple people in my career for asshatery and never received a ban.